Peaceful Bare-chested Outing in Pittsburgh

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Frick Park, Pittsburgh, Pennsyvlania. March 2016. After three months in discussion with the Pittsburgh Bureau of Police, we received confirmation from the PBP legal department of what we already knew, that male and female bare-chestedness is to be treated the same under Pennsylvania law.

 

Last week I opened my email to find a message from the Pittsburgh Bureau of Police legal department confirming, after three months of conversation, that public female bare-chestedness is legal in Pennsylvania.

Here’s what they wrote:

CONCLUSION There is no City or State law which expressly prohibits or even addresses the act of appearing bare-breasted in public. Based upon the information provided to the Law Department, the City does not appear to have any legal grounds under the City Code or Title 18 (i.e. the Commonwealth’s Crimes Code) to cite or arrest women for being bare-chested without any additional sexual or criminal behavior associated therewith. The City is preempted from regulating criminal conduct on its own so we only have state law with which to work.”

Pittsburgh is divided into six police zones, each with a police station and command structure, so just to make sure everyone was on the same page, we visited the Zone 4 station to tell the officer in charge that we would be walking and riding through Frick Park that afternoon.

As we suspected, the sergeant was completely unaware of the situation (understandable, completely) so we provided him the email and all the necessary contacts to confirm our information.  We also gave him two hours lead time before we would be in the park, which he thanked us repeatedly for doing.  He used his time to contact his patrol units to tell them we were not to be confronted if we were merely bare-chested and not committing a crime.  He admitted this was all new to him, we shared some laughs and he assured us he did not want his officers confronting or arresting us simply because they were unaware of the law.

He also contacted his commander, and in fact the PBP wrote to me last week to tell me they would be sharing the information with all six zone commanders.  We are now working on securing similar assurances and expressions of understanding from the various campus and park police forces in the city.

Armed with our written and verbal assurances, our group went out and enjoyed a beautiful, quiet, drama-free visit to the park.  No negative interactions at all.  We spent two hours bare-chested on an unseasonably warm evening, tossing a Frisbee, walking, visiting with dogs, meeting people and generally relaxing in the sun.  Many people walked by, many clearly detoured to bring them closer to us even though we had chosen a spot to allow people the choice of moving away if they wished, three different sets of parents with children came over for a chat or a closer look, and several groups stopped to offer support or toss the Frisbee with us.

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Frick Park, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, March 2016. Two hours of peace.

About an hour in, a couple approached us to warn us there were three police SUV’s parked at the trail head.  We thanked them and told them we were okay, that we were making a legal act and that the zone 4 command staff had already confirmed all of this with us this morning.  They were excited for us and fascinated.

Sure enough, a police SUV appeared at a distance, followed shortly thereafter by two foot patrolmen, all of whom kept a distance, talked quietly into phones, in plain view of the passersby, and after a minute or two left without confronting us at all.

Pittsburgh is a beautiful city, full of progressive people, vibrant history, and exciting developments.  I hope it continues to go well for women wishing to go bare-chested there.  There might be hitches along the way, and of course people will call 911 for awhile, but the start has been brilliant.

And with a group of women in Pittsburgh ready to go bare-chested when the weather turns warm again, progress looks good.  Thank you to all the Pittsburgh friends who reached out to me and asked me to be involved in this conversation.  Several people helped with information, introductions and support.  I’m very excited.

Ponder the geography… Washington D.C., Pennsylvania, New York, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, and Columbus, Ohio and parts of North Carolina.  Now if I can just get my own state of Maryland settled (working on it, believe me!) that is a major, contiguous, heavily-populated chunk of the east coast established as legally topfree, with women actually exercising the freedom.

Our own video camera failed us, but one of the Pittsburgh crew had placed his camera on a stump and captured a half-hour of blanket time and Frisbee toss, complete with the normal unaffected passersby.

Completely boring, which is of course, quite exciting.

Link to the Frick Park video.

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85 thoughts on “Peaceful Bare-chested Outing in Pittsburgh

      1. That’s very kind, thank you. It has been important to me to eliminate a couple of potential perceived motivations for my appearing bare-chested. One is that I am being a sexual exhibitionist. (This is why I simply walk or ride or play Frisbee. It is also why I don’t “pose” for photographs beyond a touristy snap shot here and there.) The second is that I just want attention or fame (I want to bring attention to the cause. But not to me, personally. I look forward to the day when I can just be anonymous again.) And the third is that I am trying to make money. For this reason, I do not monetize my YouTube videos or have advertising on my blog. I hadn’t even thought of gofundme or kickstarter, actually. My motivation is simply to normalize female bare-chestedness. With that said, your sentiment is much appreciated, truly. Thank you. Be well.

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  1. I honestly believe you are doing far more to free the nipple, than Free the Nipple has or is doing. We hope you do a U.S. tour someday. Yes, expensive. But I’d bet you’d find free lodging around the country.

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  2. A truly inspiring and reproducible model for practical progress. It demonstrates that, building on some friendly and informed background coordination with public authorities, common sense can prevail! And just in time for summer! Now that you have helped Pittsburgh, let us know how we can help you with Maryland!

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    1. Thank you, Pete. Honestly, it would be great to have a Maryland attorney willing to help me should I be cited or arrested, which looks more and more likely. If anyone knows a civil liberties attorney who might be willing to offer help (it will have to be cheap or free, I’m afraid, this is a labor of love!) I would sure love to talk to her/him. The language in Maryland is so clear that it is making authorities pause because they feel it’s actually vague and they feel confused. It’s weird. So there is a very good chance I am going to have to go out and get cited or arrested so I can test it in court. While I am quite confident in the case, I can’t represent myself and it will probably go to the appellate level anyway where you definitely need a lawyer. I actually think a couple well constructed letters to a few key people could sway things, but I’m running into old attitudes here locally I’m afraid. I’m not afraid of being arrested, I just want to do it in the most effective way possible. Winning a court case would be a permanent solution, that’s for sure. It’s just so slow. Anyway, Dear Santa, a civil liberties attorney would be great. Thank you!

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        1. I have written to them. I haven’t heard back yet. The ACLU is representing women in several other states, so I’m hopeful, but the intake process is sluggish here and I don’t know how long it might be before I hear anything, if ever. And I believe the ACLU functions as a referral center, doesn’t it? Taking the person’s information and sharing with a network of attorneys seeking to do pro bono work for civil liberties causes? I figure I can do that myself while I wait…

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          1. Years ago the ACLU took on our case against the Cape Cod National Seashore to provide legal space in the National Seashore for nude bathing. We lost the case on a technicality, but we won the principle of the right to be nude on the National Seashore. We had a now-famous lawyer who was ill-prepared. What I’m saying is that the ACLU is like any other human organization. It depends on who you happen to contact. Humans have a variety of interests. Nude is not lewd!! 😉

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            1. Yes. The lawyers in New Hampshire both did a good job. I hope I can find a competent lawyer who is willing to take the cause in Maryland. I don’t care if experienced or inexperienced if capable and willing. It’s not a terribly difficult argument to make I don’t think, not here in Maryland, I just don’t know the intricacies of the system so I don’t think I can navigate the “technicalities” as you mention.

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  3. Fabulous news, Chelsea! News from Australia… Over Easter I went to the 40 year anniversary of a festival that 7000 people attended. Confest was set up as a positive demonstration of politically left ideals, where people could camp in nature together, discuss philosophical ideas and be clothing optional. Interestingly, this year there was an influx of Rainbow festival goers, a young crowd who love costume and coffee. Bare-skin was far less common and I found that I had to pause and reflect before stripping off to dance naked around the camp-fire drumming circle. I am so glad that i did though. Immediately I was relaxed, happy and following the beat of the djembes. Culture is changing in both directions. We live in exciting times.

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    1. It is exciting. I hope we can continue this quiet march toward a more mature conversation on our bodies, sexuality, non-sexual topfreedom, gender equality and so on. The less scary we make it, the less scary it becomes and the thing grows and matures. High five. Thank you for letting me know about your adventure.

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  4. Beautiful!! I’ve been watching the well planned, organized, and informed approach you’ve done to make this possible. Its legal in New York, but really hard to findcanyone willing other than in NYC, and that’s not all that close to me. Congrats on educating the masses and pushing forward with peaceful bare-chestedness!! Live it.

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    1. I can’t believe this generation is wasting time with this shit. The police have better things to do than protect two girls just wanting attention. Ridiculous. And very sad that this is how you gat your self esteem. Get a job or volunteer for something worthwhile.

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      1. Hi Kayla: Thank you for taking the time to comment. We didn’t ask the police to protect us any more or less than they would any other park user. We had no negative interactions and did not need them to respond to us. On the other hand, if we had needed help, for whatever reason, of course we would have expected the police to respond and help us as they would any other citizen making a legal act. Your comment reflects basically what is now called “rape culture,” which is the sentiment that women acting “immodestly” or “improperly” do not deserve protection, that they are asking for whatever crime happens to them and resources devoted to protecting them are inappropriately applied. We disagree. The topfreedom movement is asking people to reconsider their feelings on this topic, and to blame, punish and control assailants, not the victims. It is an insult to men too, the contention that men cannot control themselves so women have to. I’m surrounded by mature, respectful men who can control themselves, as women control themselves. As far as how I get my self-esteem, I do volunteer, I do work, I do have a family. I do all those things that other women do. I also love myself, and feel pride in the strength and functioning of my body, a difficult thing to do in a world that is constantly telling women… as you are now, that a woman is a sad attention whore if she rejects shame and asserts equality. And my last thought is that the topfreedom movement began in 1986, so in fact several generations of people of all genders have been working on this conversation for 30 years. Even now, young and old are working on this conversation. I do thank you for your time in making a comment. I hope you will reconsider the parts of your opinion that apply shame to women for acts that men take for granted. Be well.

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    1. I think it will build at a gentle responsible pace in Pittsburgh. There is a risk with too much too soon also, with people feeling like they are having this change shoved down their throats. Which creates backlash. If the small group of women in Pittsburgh spend the summer going peacefully bare-chested, even if it’s just a handful of times, even if that’s all that happens, it’s a huge win. We cannot pressure women into going bare-chested. That’s against what the topfreedom movement t stands for. So all we can do is create the legal atmosphere that allows bare-chestedness, prove it by doing it and showing it, and if and when other women are ready they will do it. It’a like gardening. We can control some things, but in the end it will grow at it’s own pace. All we can do is weed and water and chase away the beetles. Pulling on the plants doesn’t make them grow faster. It just pulls their roots out. So we have created a beautiful fertile bed of earth in Pittsburgh. Let’s just trust nature to do what she does best. Grow. You’ve done great work. It will be fine. Thank you so much for all your help, past present and future

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        1. Nice! Thank you. Frick Park was so beautiful and the people were respectful and engaging and curious and just nice, all the things that make these experiences so beautiful. Pittsburgh has really impressed me. I appreciate you taking the time to comment, and for the support. High five.

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    1. Yes, all people, including females, can be bare-chested in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia and all of Pennsylvania, but I would recommend women contact local police before going out bare-chested in other towns than Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.

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  5. YAY, NUDITY!!! And so normal. One thing that always amuses me at topless beaches, or in photos, is the background. What are people doing? Reading, sunning, playing in the waves. Just like at any other beach!
    America has come a long way… slowly.

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    1. Thank you. I just ask people to be careful with the nudity label, since we don’t refer to bare-chested men as nude, we shouldn’t refer to bare-chested women as nude. Otherwise, I agree completely. Most people don’t really care or take notice. It’s awesome, and as it should be. I appreciate your time and for the comment. Be well.

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  6. I think that something like this or gay rights or any organization that wants to find acceptance, its important to show your “part of the system”, theres a difference between going to the park and playing frisbee and making it seem like its just another thing vs standing on a soapbox and railing against the system. There is a time and place for the latter to be sure, but the former is less confrontational and may find acceptance sooner. Humans are interesting in that regard, we get weird about new things until it becomes an old thing and no one cares. It takes longer for some of it than other things. I think your non confrontational approach is a good deal.

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    1. Thank you. Yes, that has been my strong opinion, just to go out and be normal and non-scary, in so far as that is possible with something new. But it seems to be working so far. I appreciate your time and comment. Thank you.

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  7. I don’t disagree with what you’re doing the only thing that I suggest is that if you’re going to be topless make sure that it’s in a secluded area because of children. Just like in other states when you go to a nude beach it’s a nude beach as opposed to a regular Beach. There should only be certain locations that you should be able to do this freely .This is just my however I am thinking about the children who will see this

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    1. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I have a lot of experience being bare-chested in public and I assure you that children have no problem with female breasts, if left to their own decisions and opinions. They watch their parents for reactions, and if the parents are okay, the children are okay. There is nothing harmful or inherently sexual with the female breast, it’s just that we have conditioned our society to see the female breast as taboo and sexual. That can and is being unlearned. Many, many children have seen me and other women bare-chested, none of them were harmed. What does harm children, I feel strongly about this, is when their parents call women things like slut, and whore, and try to put shame on them for seeking equality under the law. I have experienced that too, and it is very disturbing. Here is an article I wrote on this topic actually. The parents I have felt the most respect for have been the ones who, agree or disagree, use the interaction to have a conversation about body image, gender equality, kindness, and so on. I think some parents are uncomfortable with the thought of having an awkward conversation too, and that translates to discomfort for the children, but really this whole national conversation is a young person’s conversation and I’m excited about that. I have a lot of young women between the ages of 15 and 20 engaging me through email and social media and they have a sophisticated vocabulary on topics of gender, equality, discrimination and civil liberty. If you are interested in this topic further, I might suggest the video of my walk through Georgetown, Washington D.C., which is a very crowded place and where I have parents and children pass by. You can see their reactions and more importantly, non-reactions. I believe in the cause of topfreedom, I believe in equality and positive body image and anti-bullying, and I believe it in enough to share it with children and their parents. I’ve been seeing more and more parents allowing their young daughters to go without bathing tops at the beach these last two summers. Not a lot, but more each year. I think that’s very important, and strong parenting. I do appreciate your time, and I’m happy to continue this thread and hear your thoughts. Be well. Thank you.

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    2. if children see boobs…who cares…most were fed by them…and if they`re brought up seeing them it won`t be vulgar or perverted to them…..

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      1. Agreed. There are cultures all over the world who raise their children seeing female breasts to be primarily nonsexual. This idea is not new. It’s just new to some people. It is well established in many modern and progressive societies. Thank you for your comment.

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    1. Hi, thank you for visiting my blog and taking the time to comment. I like to think the world is coming to a place of gender equality and compassion about our bodies. Women’s bodies are healthy, beautiful, nourishing, strong, capable gifts. I think a lot of women around the world are beginning to understand the power of shame at the same time. It is very exciting to experience this growth with so many others. Again, thank you.

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    1. Thank you for considering gender equality, and for commenting. Civil liberties and freedoms of course apply to all citizens. Beauty is subjective and mostly meaningless. The important thing is that the humans inside the bodies be allowed to enjoy their lives free of shame and to seek happiness in their own ways. I believe we can mature our conversation on sexuality and body image and consent and equality. I believe we already are maturing the conversation. I appreciate the time you took visiting my blog and commenting. Be well.

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  8. First off a park is a place to go with your children (family). I’m pretty sure u both are full on lesbos so I guess u can’t relate to having children. If u do I feel bad for your children. When I take my kid to the park there ain’t no reason women should have there tits out playing Frisbee. Stay home go to a strip club even go to a nude beach. Stay away from public places where people don’t want or need to see ur tits

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    1. Hi Jessica. Thank you for visiting my blog and taking the time to comment. Parks are public spaces free to be used by all citizens, regardless if they have children or not. Regardless, female breasts have as a primary function the nourishment and comfort of children. Female breasts do not endanger children. What does endanger children is seeing their parents express negative, discriminatory or vitriolic behaviors toward women. It teaches them to do the same. It teaches girls to consider their own bodies shameful and dirty, which is what actually contributes to reckless sexual behavior later. Seeing women comfortable and confident in their bodies is a powerful image, but not for sexual reasons. It shows that women can control their own bodies and body images. To some people, that shift in power is a very uncomfortable thing. It need not be. There is nothing inherently dangerous in female breasts. Men enjoy their freedom to go bare-chested with great regularity. This is just new to Americans, is all. And new can feel scary, even when it isn’t actually dangerous or threatening. In short order, we will consider female bare-chestedness no more or less noteworthy than male bare-chestedness. Again, I appreciate your time. Be well.

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      1. Actually, I appreciate what you say but I beg to differ.I don’t expose my self, because I personally feel that they are a gift, a sort of personal thing and I love who I am and I love the way I look. I takepride in my breasts because I truly like myaelf and i am not shameful because i cover up. I cover up because I TAKE PRIDE IN ME. I was brought up that these are gifts. That they are not for show but a personal part of the body. what’s WRONG WITH BEING DIFFERENT I personally don’t want to be treated like a guy. To me you it’s like taking that special something beautiful away that make women different and also have extra benefits. I don’t want to be like men. I see a lot of problems in the future with legalizing until people get use to it and I am referring to crimes and comments made to women. This movement is not for everyone. SO PLEASE SROP MAKING IT AOUND THAT WE ARE SHAMED OR FEEL DIRTY. Thank you for supporting women and wish you the best, just please not everyone who tells their child women cover up is going to feel less than, dirty etc. Just as I won’t generalize that you are trying to make us feel shameful or dirty. I’ll respect you if you respect the parents and others who feel differentlu and not generalize about he harm… Be safe.

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        1. Thank you. You are right. I didn’t intend to group all parents or people who wish to stay covered as shaming women but I can see where my words read that way. Thank you for setting this straight. I was referring specifically to a couple incidents I’ve written about before in which a mother used very hateful language about women in front of her children while discussing modesty and bare-chestedness. One woman called me a whore and a slut and claimed I was mentally ill for going bare chested. In front of her three daughters. I felt her misogyny was more damaging than whatever shock my bare-chestedness could have possibly produced. So you will find elsewhere in my writing a strong sentiment that people should be left to make their own decisions regarding whether or not bare-chestedness is for them. But I feel the legal and social standard should be applied equally to men and women. Many men choose not to go bare-chested but they have the freedom to choose. As long as women have that same freedom then we are establishing a form of equality. Being treated equally does not mean being treated the same. It means having the same rights, opportunities and freedoms…and responsibilities. So I hope we aren’t as far apart as you first took us to be. I’ve never nor will I ever pressure other women to go bare-chested. I do assert that the law should be applied equally and that all people get to choose their actions on an equal basis. Thank you for making this clear and valid point. I appreciate your time.

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  9. This should be proof that it’s not shameful to breastfeed in public either. I remember when my children were babies and I had to cover myself while breastfeeding in public, but I wasn’t ashamed of what I was doing! If men can be shirtless, so should we!!

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    1. Hi Suzanne, thank you for commenting. That is a huge part of what this is all about, destigmatizing the female breast and decoupling or at least reducing the amount of sexuality perceived to exist in the female breast in American society. Breastfeeding is a vital and healthy act and any shame attached to the female breast, any at all, serves as an impediment to breast feeding. Shame is very powerful. That’s why people use it. But being armored against shame is even more powerful, and healthy. Thank you for taking the time to write your thoughts. Be well.

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    1. Hi Kelli. Thank you for visiting and writing. Female bare- chestedness is no more or less lewd than male bare – chestedness. In order for an act to be legally lewd it must be intended to affront. In fact it is very difficult to apply lewdness in legal proceedings because it is so vague and subjective. The Pennsylvania constitution guarantees all genders equal treatment under the law. So has the Pennsylvania supreme court. So in order to declare an act lewd it must be lewd in all genders. Barechested men are not considered lewd nor nude. Nor are bare-chested women. Some people feel it is lewd because we have such a strong conditioning in our society to consider the female breast sexual all the time no matter what context but courts have repeatedly held that this thinking reflects entrenched prejudice and gender bias. New York, Washington D.C., Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Texas and other states have held female bare-chestedness to be legal in some cases since 1986. So the laws are old. It’s not lewd. It’s not illegal. People just think it is sometimes because it is new and we are still getting used to it. Thank you for your time.

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    1. I understand the Columbus police have trained their officers to not arrest barechested females. Which is awesome. I haven’t a clear picture on the rest of Ohio. I was going to email Columbus police this summer when everything calms down a bit from Pittsburgh and New Hampshire and Maryland. But I’m looking forward to visiting Ohio. Thank you. It would be great if a local woman or two could help me, but you know I will always go it alone if necessary.

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      1. If it’s legal in Ohio, perhaps the inroads to make are not in the big cities like Columbus, but the small ones like Athens, Portsmouth, Marietta, Steubenville, Sandusky, and the like. I’ve been in Athens a few times; it’s a big college town (Ohio U). But I do not know the political or police situation there, and know even less about the others.

        What’s really needed is to find people in each of these towns — in Ohio, in Pennsylvania, in New York State outside of NYC — to study the posts on this blog, beginning with the earliest ones, and start the footwork themselves.

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  10. Sadly, this link is blocked from sharing on Facebook, which kind of explains why I heard nothing about it. As a local I’m very interested in seeing non-action by police become standard practice. Is there documentation I can present to my local police department in my township so that I can hopefully have freedom in yardwork, etc?

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    1. This is awesome. Thank you for writing to me. I wish I had known, I was in Pittsburgh on Friday and joined four other bare-chested women in Frick Park. It was a quiet and enjoyable evening outing, plenty of passersby, very public spot, no negative interactions at all. All positive or neutral. Curiosity, per normal, but benign and uneventful. Are you in Pittsburgh itself? All of the police officers in the PBP and the campus police have ostensibly been trained this spring that female bare-chestedness is legal. If you want to confirm this with your local zone headquarters to feel more comfortable of course you certainly can and should. I think it’s important for them to know women are exercising this freedom. If you are not in Pittsburgh proper, if you email me I can give you the information for the Pittsburgh police contact we have been using.

      The language the PBP legal department issued on the topic is as follows: “CONCLUSION There is no City or State law which expressly prohibits or even addresses the act of appearing bare-breasted in public. Based on upon [sic] the information provided to the Law Department, the City does not appear to have any legal grounds under the City Code or Title 18 (i.e. the Commonwealth’s Crimes Code) to cite or arrest women for being bare-chested without any additional sexual or criminal behavior associated therewith. The City is preempted from regulating criminal conduct on its own so we only have state law with which to work.”

      Let me know if you need anything further. If you would like me to put you in contact with other PGH women going bare-chested let me know and we will make arrangements 🙂

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      1. This is fantastic news! I am in fact just outside city proper, about a mile past the boarders, so my municipality is not under City of Pittsburgh jurisdiction. I was able to find your email from another comment in your blog, and will message you as suggested. Thank you!

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        1. It’s state law, not city, so theoretically the same logic applies. What this means is that those of us in neighboring townships need to do what she did, contacting police at the top levels, and getting each of them to do what city police did.

          Not just Pittsburgh area, either. All across PA.

          Not just Pennsylvania, either. Every other place where the law is clear. NY, Ohio, Ontario, etc.

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  11. I find this completely hilarious as a cause – both that someone gives a crap if you bare your breasts and also that someone would take the time to protest or otherwise complain on either side of the issue. Thanks for the laughs.

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    1. Thanks for writing. My initial reaction was to respond by writing something funny and flip in response, as a lighthearted nod to the absurdity of people’s fears and prejudices. But when I reread it it sounded like it might land as an insult so I retracted it, because if you follow my blog at all you will know how strongly I feel against negative remarks in comment sections. So I’ll just say this, I think it’s easy to find other people’s passions to be a waste of time, because by definition they don’t apply directly to us and don’t feel urgent. But the reason topfreedom incites passion in its activists, me included, is because it represents equality, and for people who feel treated unequally in some way, whatever that may be, correcting the inequality can feel very important. So I agree that it is amazing that people feel female bare-chestedness is a big deal, and I look forward to the day when it is not a big deal, but the language people use to reject female bare-chestedness is often what betrays the importance of the action. For example, in legislative testimony in New Hampshire, a critic of female bare-chestedness said women should be protected from equality. When that is what we are hearing, how can we NOT feel passionate? At any rate, I hope this helps in some way explain why we feel so strongly on this topic. Take care. Thanks for visiting the blog. Be well.

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